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Barry Duggan
March 9th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

My greatest concern would be if all of you have abandoned a life with a Heavenly Father, His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit which is free to anyone who believes in a Father in Heaven who loves them. I can understand wanting to leave an organization that would contrl ones’ beliefs so stringently– please find a non-mormon Bible and look into a real life of Faith and Freedom.
I will be available if needed– no pressure. God Bless you all.

March 12th, 2011 at 6:32 am

The problem is that once I left Mormonism most of the same reasons I left the church applied to Christianity as a whole. Religion is based on a fear factor of eternal salvation.

In the legal system manipulating people to agree to a contract based on fear is a voidable contract made under duress. Religion is no different to me. If there is a God who is loving, he will forgive our sins and give us a chance to live eternal life someday instead of judging us on striving to become more intelligent and educated by using truth and logic to make our decisions instead of the cognitive biases and self fulfilling prophecies of faith.

November 17th, 2011 at 8:45 am

Nathan, don’t worry to much. Most people who leave the LDS Church abandon religion all together. Orthodox Trinitarian views and the beliefs of Islam, Taoism, Shintoism, Doaism, Hinduism, Judaism, Budism and many other religious groups, while advancing principles of general decency and morality, are replete with confusion and inconsistency. It is difficult to relate to, understand and believe in a God that is distant, incomprehensable and unknowable. A God who is “feared” in the extrabiblical sense when compared to a knowable, comprehensable being. Losing faith in such a God leaves us with little choice than to abandon acceptance of His pressence alltogether.

July 8th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

What a load of crap.

July 16th, 2012 at 8:52 pm


The entire problem IS the idea of God and the religions that promote it. Ex-Mormons have been taught at least one true doctrine by their former faith: that all other religions are false. Once we realize that our religion is not special in regard to veracity, there is only one happy conclusion for us.

Matthew Paige, Portland OR
February 20th, 2013 at 10:09 am

If you investigated the origins of the Bible and the story of Jesus itself, you woudl discover that most of the story of Jesus was lifted or borrowed from other religions of the time, mostly from the Egyptian legend of Isis. in the old testament, even some of those stories were borrowed from other religions that predated the Hebrew/Jewish faith.

What you are suggesting is that those who left the Mormon church adopt the belief system of another church, whose beliefs and scriptures are just as questionable.

A person can convince themselves that any belief is true if they have a strong enough desire to, and persons who base their beliefs on faith instead of facts are only deceiving themselves. People receive “confirmation” of their beliefs through prayer, and we are told this is the holy spirit, but as this happens for people all religions, it can’t be confirmation of the truths.

I have no problem with faith itself, as long as it is the belief int he absence of facts, but in recent times faith has come to mean to believe in spite of the facts which in my mind is no longer faith but willful ignorance.

My mother jumped from Jehovah’s Witnesses to Mormonism, but was no happier. Ir doe snto good to trade one false belief for another. The only answer it to examine facts and to structure one’s life accordingly.

March 29th, 2014 at 8:40 pm

I see no more evidence for Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ, or the Holy Ghost, than I do for the stuff Joe Smith was selling, to me it is all fairytales

John D. Birmingham
April 5th, 2011 at 3:57 pm

Nathan, I could not agree with you more ! As an Ex-Mormon myself, I too have come to realize that no church or religious dogma of any kind is going to change anything that happens to me after I die. My personal quest is to continually educate myself by way of living my life to the fullest and striving to be the very best person that I can become. I had the scales fall away from my eyes regarding the LDS faith when I was on my mission to the Spain, Madrid region and saw first-hand that the church is nothing more than a money making machine that at the end of the day, really could care less about people or their personal feelings regarding true spirituality. We were instructed by the mission president upon arrival to baptize the men first and foremost because they bring in the money and the church needs their 10% ! Talk about feeling kicked in the stomach. At least the mission president was honest about why we as missionaries were there in the first place. Churches as a whole are all about the money.

Bravo to all of you on this website and around the globe that have seen the light and left the church system, no matter what your faith was. Life is ours to savor at our own pace. I wish all of you nothing but peace and hope that you all enjoy this life that is a marvelous thing of wonder indeed.

Ex Elder John D. Birmingham – Phoenix, Arizona (Free at last !)

April 5th, 2011 at 6:24 pm

(Free at Last !) What do you mean by that?Im a actual Mormon and Im not kept as a prisoner.

July 12th, 2011 at 11:03 am

“A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure”, does that sound the church? …that’s the definition for a cult… Of coarse you aren’t going to feel like a prisoner, you don’t realize that you are one.

November 4th, 2011 at 1:39 am

Its called agency and we all have it. I could leave the church at anytime but I DON’T WANT TO. I know it is true and I love the gospel. The people in the church aren’t perfect but the church is perfect.

April 28th, 2014 at 10:55 pm

Sue, if the church was perfect, why have there been over 100,000 revisions to the BoM? Perfection is the absence of error. 1 or 2 revisions, sure, but over 100,000? Sounds perfect to me.

January 24th, 2012 at 3:58 am

Dude that is ridicules, the church wanting batisims to get more money. Your mission president was wacked or you misunderstood him. I served mission and never heard anything like that. I am not a ex-mormon I just don’t believe and I don’t go to church.

July 16th, 2012 at 8:58 pm


Agreed. I never experienced anything like what John claims. Most truly believe that they are saving the chosen elect of God. I sincerely thought that. BTW, ex-mormon means ‘I don’t believe and I don’t go to church’.

April 5th, 2011 at 6:22 pm

These people don’t believe in God and are CHISMOSOS!

July 8th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

People who believe in Dog are SLARGARFU!

wayne carlson
August 26th, 2011 at 11:13 am

I was raised for a time in Palmyra, NY from 3to7 years old as a Presbytarian. My foster father directed traffic at the Hill Cumorah pageant in the summer. I was aware of a store where the book of mormon, 1st edition was published on main street. In school we read about crickets and seagulls in Salt Lake City during the 1800’s. I moved away from Palmyra and put that aside.

I was living on the streets of New York City at the age of 15, Mormons made themselves available. I was baptised without parental permission in a stream in Long Island. No witness were present. I served a mission where I came in contact with historical information on Mormons. I eventually discovered that I was not told the truth about mormonism.

I eventually was excommunicated and my Temple Marriage dissolved under encouragement of my bishop toward my wife.

I drink coffee everyday now to keep the mormons away!!

October 25th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

what are these things you were “not told about Mormons”?

October 26th, 2011 at 2:28 pm

He’s probably referring to the pagan/mason temple rituals, the fact that the mormon Jesus was not born from a virgin Mary and that Elohim actually fornicated(he never married her) with Mary his daughter, and that Lucifer is the brother of Jesus according to mormon doctrine. Or maybe he was surprised to learn about eternal polygamy, or the fact that Elohim was once a man and that we can all become exalted to godhood as he was, by being good mormons. I know that’s the one that got me! I would never worship a man, not a man who merged with a machine and became an immortal cyborg, or a man who any other methods became a “god”. Who created Elohim before he was exalted to godhood? Who was his god, and who was his gods god?

This is why many converts to mormonism are in for a rude awakening.

November 29th, 2011 at 1:04 am

Most people don’t leave the church for the reasons John is spouting. That’s mostly just a bunch of Evangelical fear mongering. When I was a Mormon, Evangelical griping never got to me. I thought (and still think) that the protestors at General Conference are mildly insane.

Anyway, here are a few of the big things the church doesn’t go out of its way to tell you: the true origins of the Book of Abraham (Modern-day Egyptologists will tell you that it’s a funeral text called the Book of Breathing. The figures in the facsimile are Isis, Osiris, Ma’at, Hor, and Anubis. Don’t believe me? Look it up on church apologist websites); the Kinderhook Plates Scandal (A couple of guys, fed up with Joseph Smith, planted forged scriptural plates. Joseph Smith translated them to be about the genealogy of Zelph, a descendent of Ham through the loins of Pharaoh. You can read about the hoax at Mormon apologist websites); Joseph Smith’s numerous wives (He is recorded as having at least 30 wives. I was told as a kid that they wanted to be sealed to him after his death, but all of the marriages are recorded as occurring BEFORE his death. He even married women who were already married–while their husbands were away on missions. Worst of all, he married a 14-year-old girl. All of this is acknowledged on Familysearch. I was always led to believe that people “persecuted” early Mormons because of Satan’s influence. A likely story. The real reason people didn’t want Mormons around was because of rumors of early polygamy, banking scandals, and Mormon block voting).

There are many, many more things that the church doesn’t usually share with its members. The church no longer actively hides unpleasant truths, but it also doesn’t print the whole truth in Church history manuals. I think Church leaders think that most members can’t handle the whole truth. I think people should know everything–good and bad. Only then can they make a genuine and honest decision about what they believe.

October 26th, 2011 at 12:53 pm

He’s probably referring to the pagan/mason temple rituals, the fact that the mormon Jesus was not born from a virgin Mary and that Elohim actually fornicated(he never married her) with Mary his daughter, and that Lucifer is the brother of Jesus according to mormon doctrine. Or maybe he was surprised to learn about eternal polygamy, or the fact that Elohim was once a man and that we can all become exalted to godhood as he was, by being good mormons. I know that’s the one that got me! I would never worship a man, not a man who merged with a machine and became an immortal cyborg, or a man who any other methods became a “god”. Who created Elohim before he was exalted to godhood? Who was his god, and who was his gods god?

This is why many converts to mormonism are in for a rude awakening.

December 14th, 2011 at 6:12 am

So nice to find this website. I left Mormonism about 10 years ago. Quit my, job, divorced my wife, and left the country searching for who I really was. Thought I was over all the trauma caused from suddenly realizing that I had grown up in the bubble and had no idea who I really was and what I believed. It hit me hard I had gone on a mission and was a true believer. I guess I still have issues deep down whether I want to admit it or not. Regardless, I have never or rarely referred to myself as an Exmormon. Perhaps I should be more open about it and accept it as part of my past. Nice to hear others stories and be able to relate to it. Thank you to all the posters and video makers.

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July 2nd, 2012 at 11:22 pm

I just read through the comments, and I have a few comments and questions. First, why is it that people who leave the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints so often find it necessary to justify their decision to everyone else. If you truly don’t believe it, then I think the church is probably better off without you. The last things we want is to have people feeling like they are being kept against their will . . . something that has never been the case. If you feel trapped because our dealings with you are based on something we truly believe, then that is a problem you will have to deal with. We are not going to tell you that we don’t believe what we believe simply so you will feel better leaving. Go agead and have your name removed from the records and then be on your way. We will, of course, try to seek you out and lovingly try to get you to reconsider, but you will always have the right to say no. But just as you emphatically demand that we respect your belief system ( and we should respect it ), you should respect ours. What kind of person would I be if I said that I truly believed something, and then made no effort to share it with others? Just as you are trying to support and justify those who leave based on your belief that the church is false, I am trying to convince people to stay or come back based on my belief that it is true. If what you truly want is for members of the church to respect your right to worship how you may, then you need to respect our right to do the same. I totally disagree with those that come on here and point fingers, call names, talk down to and otherwise try to guilt you for your decision to leave. That method will never be right. People should always try to lovingly understand rather than accuse and scoff. My hope is that you will offer that same level of civility in your efforts. For the record, I don’t think it is civil to discount completely someone elses conclussions simply because those conclusions are different from yours. Most people who have been members of the church for any length of time have heard all of the same anti-mormon theories that you site in your argument against the church. I have certainly heard them. I have good friends who have left the church for the same reasons. What strikes me is that you beg and plead and kick and scream for respect in the decision you have made, but you don’t offer that respect to others unless they come to your same conclusion. Is everyone else just less enlightened, less educated, less capable of reason or brain-washed simply because we looked at the same theories and still chose to believe? There are plenty of highly educated, extremely thoughtful people who have heard all of the anti-mormon theories and still choose to believe. I guess they (we), must be stupid, otherwise we couldn’t possibly disagree with you. Please don’t claim that everyone else is intolerant and uncivil simply because they didn’t follow your same path. Also I have no doubt that people can live a wonderful life without the LDS church. We certainly don’t corner the market in morality. I know countless members of other faiths that are wonderful people with different beliefs. I have never, ever heard the church claim that you can’t live a moral, kind, meaningful life without being a member of our church. To think that is an extrapolation based on your own need for justification. Despite a laundry list of church history that I don’t understand and frankly wish did not exist, I still believe. I appreciate that you have decided that the only real evidence is empirical. I respect your decision to base your life on that type of evidence . . .many do. However, I will continue to base mine on something else. I will continue to love others, try to understand others, share my testimony of what I sincerely believe is the true Church of Jesus Christ. I will never apologize for that. And when the end comes, if you are right (certainly not what I believe) at the very least, I will have tried to live a good life. I will have avoided swearing, drinking, using drugs and being immoral (all things that many non-mormons do). If I’m wrong (which I do not believe I am), I will be judged by the life that I led. It has never been my effort or the church’s effort to discount anyone else’s belief (and don’t throw snippets from the first vision at me . . . as you know I see them in a different context than you do). We simply offer the advice found in James . . . go to the source. If you do that, and get a different answer than I did, or no answer at all, then you may feel free to go your way. But kindly let me do the same without throwing some condescending one-liner at me as I continue to follow my own beliefs. I will certainly extend that same courtesy.

July 8th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

If people who stop being mormon don’t need to justify themselves to anyone else, why the hell are mormons coming on here trying to justify THEMSELVES?

July 16th, 2012 at 9:41 pm


I appreciate your respectful attitude. It can only help to foster good feelings. For those of us who have been life-long members of the church, leaving is emotionally traumatic for a lot of reasons that you maybe don’t understand. (If you think its from a desire to drink, swear and be immoral then you really don’t understand.) 😉 It helps people sort through their thoughts and emotions to discuss their situation with people who have endured the same things in their process of leaving. Perhaps you have been to testimony meeting before? Well, this is un-testimony meeting.

If I, as an atheist ex-mormon, were to stand up in your testimony meeting and bear my un-testimony about the non-existence of God and the futility of your religious worship I imagine this would irritate some people in the congregation. (I mean what kind of atheist would I be if I didn’t try to get you to recognize the foolishness of your superstition?) The bishop would probably ask me to sit down. In exactly the same way, your testimony here is irritating. That may be why you detect some hostility. I hope that you can see the other side of the coin and for my part I wish you no ill-will and respect your right to voice your opinion. There is no bishop here to censor you at any rate.

July 23rd, 2012 at 7:46 am

Nephi and Richard,

You can’t honestly not understand why I would, as a mormon, come on here to defend myself. I didn’t come looking for this website so that I could try to convince you of the error of your ways. That wasn’t my intention at all. The only reason I came across this site was that the developer has basically copied the public relations campaign of the church. I was doing some research for a talk in sacrament meeting about reverence and a link to this site emerged. I simply looked to see what it was about because the name of the family that made the video was the name of a family I thought I knew. That’s it.

I have absolutely no problem with this type of forum. In fact, I have seen nothing but respectfully, if not condescendingly so, comments to any reply by an active member of our church. I think that is great. The thing that gets under my skin about this site is its obvious attempt to piggy-back off of the church’s PR efforts ( Does the fact that your beliefs have changed negate the hope and happiness that each of the profiles on portray? Certainly not. But to say that this is just a forum for you to air out your feelings is a falsehood. You are trying to convince people. And you have every right to do that. But don’t, like almost everyone on here, continue to try and say that you are simply sorting through your feelings, or airing out your thoughts. I see very little talk about your own beliefs. Most everything on here is an attempt to disprove or even denigrate mine and others who believe the way I do. If you have a personal beef with the church, by all means express it. But stop trying to say that it is anything other than an attempt to convince people to believe the way you do. I will absolutely admit that my efforts are trying to convince others to believe the way I do. If you, and everyone else on here would make that same admission, people like me would probably stop responding. However, as long as you try to attack our beliefs (maybe not you personally, but others on here) we will continue to defend. I think that is really just a natural way to be. This isn’t a testimony . . . just some thoughts about honest dialogue.

August 4th, 2012 at 7:18 am

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August 4th, 2012 at 7:22 am

So our 3rd string QB not signed, not a real issue here.

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